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and with the death penalty. >> so as mr. alexander's coming towards you, he now has a knife in your hand. that's what you're telling us? >> no, i didn't say that either. >> okay, as mr. alexander is getting blasted and going down, he's got the knife in his hand, right? >> objection, argumentative. >> overruled. >> that was all in the same time moment he was lunging at my. >> he doesn't have the knife in his hand, does he? >> not in that particular moment, no. >> ma'am, i'm asking you, at that particular time, he didn't have the knife in his hands, right? >> i just said no. >> and he goes down, sort of next to you, right? >> yes. we both go tumbling. >> sure you both go down. you never told us that you had a knife there, did you? >> no, i wasn't asked. >> oh, i see. so what you're saying is now he has the knife with him, right? now that's what you're saying, he's got the knife. >> i didn't say that either. >> well, which one is it, ma'am? does he have the knife or he doesn't have the knife? you were there? >> argumentative. >> sustained. >> in order to catch her, he used details. you know, it's been s
. >> did you want to kill mr. alexander on june 4th? >> no, that was not a goal of mine. >> reporter: the prosecutor. >> that was a lie? is that what you're saying? >> yes. >> reporter: and even those written by the jury and read by the judge. >> after all the lies you have told, why should we believe you now? >> lying isn't typically something i just do. >> why should we believe you? they want a reason. how do we know you're telling the truth now? that's her problem. that's her problem. not telling the truth time after time after time the jury has scene it. they've heard it. they know that she can sit there and look one hundred percent truthful and be spewing a lie. >> one of the things is you don't lie, right? >> lying, martinez asserted, was easy for jodi. frequent. even if it flew in the face of her mormon faith. >> this is the faith that you tried to follow, right? >> yes. >> and that's what you told the jury, right? >> yes. >> these books that we talked about, specifically the book of mormon, it does talk about lying, right? >> yes. >> why don't you tell us based on looking at
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proving she never planned to kill travis alexander. >> did you go to mr. alexander's home on june 4th with the intent on killing him? >> no, i didn't. >> reporter: the jury is well aware arias has changed her story three times. two years after the killing, she finally said she did kill travis alexander, but in self defense. she claimed his anger and the physical abuse worsened after she caught alexander masturbating to a photo of a young boy, but if it was so startling, why hadn't she written about it in her journal? >> it was a highly negative event and a negative experience for me and not something i wished to remember. >> reporter: another week, another sex tape. this time, the defense played mainly alexander's voice. an effort to paint him as the more experienced sexually. >> you cannot say i don't work that booty. we've had two and three-hour sessions many times. >> the defense did all it could to clean up arias' image. even trying to explain away the text message arias sent to alexander suggesting she dress up like a dirty little school girl. >> the idea of the school girl in th
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for jodi arias's defense team was knocking down any hint at premeditation. >> did you go to mr. alexander's home with the intent on killing him? >> i didn't. >> reporter: another attempt to convince the jury she murdered travis alexander in self defense. testimony quickly turned to her broken finger on her left hand. the prosecution has tried to prove she hurt her finger while stabbing her ex-boyfriend dozens of times and dragging his body. >> and that is an injury you incurred when you testified to having received when mr. alexander was kicking you in the ribs and he ended up kicking your hand, correct? >> that's correct. >> reporter: she says alexander broke her finger six months before the murder, the day after she caught him allegedly masturbating to a photo of a little boy. she claims he became increasingly violent after that. even though the couple had broken up she says she and alexander continued to have sex. the state has painted her as jealous and obsessive. here she portrayed herself as unphased by the other woman. >> i didn't want to be confrontational. i wanted to let him kno
did you ever indicate that mr. alexander's hands were in contact with any --. jenna: sorry. we're hearing voices and they're seeing us. and that could be a little confusing. >> we had it all the time because of ifb. viewers at home don't but we hear voices all the time. jenna: we certainly do. adam, today, no jodi. what's's happening? >> reporter: it will be weird for us watching the trial. 18 days, literal weeks of testimony, they have off on fridays and other days off. she has been on the stand for weeks. 18 days of tedious, frustrating, grizzly testimony, she is off the stand it finished yesterday afternoon. very controversy as you might imagine. jurors can ask questions directly. that is onely one of few states that allow that. the questions were very skeptical. prosecutor is making inroads. we'll let you listen to an excertificate where the prosecutor goes after her she found a gun travis supposedly had. >> so you go with these words, mr. alexander telling you that he believed it was unloaded and you also take your belief that you think it's unloaded based on what he told
. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: mr. alexander: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from tennessee. mr. alexander: mr. president, i ask consent to vitiate the quorum call. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. alexander: mr. president, i ask consent to speak for ten minutes, and if the chair would please le let me know when nine minutes have a lapsed, i would appreciate it. the presiding officer: the chair will so notify you. mr. alexander: mr. president, we remember president johnson's skill in path the civil rights act. we remember president nixon going to china and we remember president carter and the panama canal treaties. we remember president reagan fixing social security and george h.w. bush balancing the budget by raising taxes. we remember president clinton and welfare reform. we remember president george w. bush tackling immigration reform and if the history books were written today, we would remember president obama for the sequester. this is unique in history. this is not the way our presidents usually conduct themselves. here
' face. >> this was all first-impression. >> he probably figured, game on. >> mr. travis alexander! >> at 29, travis was already a heavy hitter with the company and a big personality. >> did you think she was impressed with sort of who travis was? >> think she was a little bit swept off her feet. >> travis had grown up poor, one of seven children of parents who had serious addiction issues. eventually he moved in with his grandmother and discovered the church of latter-day saints. friend and fellow mormon david said it fueled his desire to achieve. >> that was the theme he lived on. everything from your background doesn't have to define your future. >> with his humble beginnings behind him, travis used his money to enjoy life. >> mr. travis alexander is back with us. >> travis was cool, attractive, even magnetic. a guy people wanted to be friends with and travis alexander very much enjoyed being friends with them especially if they were women. >> it's well reported that travis was a flirt and he loved the game of dating. it was almost like a sport to him. >> and men who like women
down any hint at premeditation. >> did you go to mr. alexander see home on june 4th with the intent of killing him? >> no, i didn't. >> reporter: another attempt to convince the jury she murdered travis alexander in self defense. even though she's changed her story three times. testimony quickly turned to arias' broken finger on on her left hand. the prosecution has tried to prove she hurt her finger while stabbing her ex-boyfriend dozens of times. and dragging his bloody body around the house. to dispute that, arias' defense lawyer offered a show and tell. >> and that is the injury you incurred when you testified to having received when mr. alexander was kicking you in the ribs and he ended up kicking your hand, correct? >> that's correct. >> reporter: arias says alexander broke her finger six months before the murder, the day after she caught him allegedly masturbating to a photo of a little boy. she claims he became increasingly violent after that. even though the couple had broken up, arias says she and alexander continued to have sex. but she wasn't the only one alexander was s
testified to having received when mr. alexander was kicking you in the ribs, and he ended up kicking your hand, correct? >> that's correct. >> arias said alexander broke her finger six months before the murder. the day after she caught him allegedly masturbating to a photo of a little boy. she claims he became increasingly violent after that. even though the couple had broken up, arias says she and alexander continued to have sex. but she wasn't the only one alexander was seeing. now, the state has painted her as jealous, and obsessive. but here in court, arias portrayed herself as unphased by this other woman. she even asked alexander about her. >> i didn't want to be confrontational. i wanted to just throw it out there, let him know it's okay if you're dating someone. you can let me know. i'm going to be cool about that. >> again, the couple's sex life was on full display. the defense worked to convince the jury it was alexander, not airias, who was the more experienced sexually. listen to this recording of the couple's phone sex played in court. >> we've had two or three-hour sessions
vantd if he has any additional views. mr. alexander: i agree, madam president, with the senator from utah. i think he stated clearly what the constitutionality is, and he has been its most -- the most forceful advocate of that. as i think about the legislation that we're talking about, i'm thinking also about the employer mandate, and the requirement that, as i mentioned earlier, employers pay $2,000 if they don't offer insurance or $3,000 penalty if they offer the wrong kind of insurance. i would say to the senator from utah that we're making it more difficult to lower the unemployment rate in this country, which has stayed too high with 12 million people unemployed, when we keep loading up employers with costs that make it more expensive to hire an employee. i mean, if you make it more expensive to hire an employee, you don't give the employer an incentive to hire more people. you discourage the employer from hiring more people. and i wonder if i might ask the senator in thinking about the employer mandate, if he agrees that employers across the country are considering reducing the
individual that lied about all this, right? >> yes. >> and so then take a look at it, mr. alexander-- you would have-- >> yes. >> and you would acknowledge that that stabbing was with a knife, right. >> yes. >> and according to your version of events you would acknowledge that that stabbing was after the shooting according to you, right? >> i don't -- yes, i don't remember. >> i am 'm not asking if you remember. i'm asking if you acknowledge that it would be you that did it, correct? >> yes. >> and you would acknowledge that a lot of the stab wounds, and if you want we can count them together including the ones to the head, were to the back of the head, the back of the-- correct. >> okay, count them, i don't know, take your word for it. would you like to take a look at the photograph. >> no. >> would you agree that you're the person who actually slit mr. alexander's throat from ear to ear? >> yes. >> cross examination is now over. on monday, arias will be back on the witness stand for redirect questioning by her own attorneys, they're going to attempt to patch her up. and straight ahead,
have any memory of slashing mr. alexander's throat? >> no. >> when you were asked on on cross-examination if did you that, do you recall telling us that you did? >> yes. >> was that a recollection or logical assumption on your part? >> it was definitely not a recollection, so it was just based on the facts that i i knew. >> now, in terms of how long this q and a will go with the juror questions, shep, it really depends on arias and reminder this will be day 16 with her on the stand. >> let's bring in ann bremner now. she an attorney and will help us break this down. what do you expect this afternoon? >> we will hear a lot of different questions put to her by the judge. the fact of the matter is there are so many. some may be duplications and then second we're going to basically see her having to look at the jurors. she has been looking at them the whole time, which is great for a defendant to do or any witness. then she is going to have to look at them and an the questions they want. when the detective was questioned there were questions from the jurors that asked things about
alexander. >> did you go to mr. alexander's home on june 4th with the intent on killing him? >> no. i didn't. >> the jury is well aware arias has changed her story three times. two years after the killing, she finally said she did kill travis alexander, but in self-defense. she claimed his anger and the physical abuse worsened after she'd caught alexander ma masterbating to a photo of a young boy. >> it was a negative experience for me and it's not something i wished to remember. >> another week, another sex tape. this time the defense played mainly alexander's voice in effort to play him as the more experienced sexually. >> we've had two and three-hour sessions many times. >> reporter: the defense did all it could to clean up arias' image, even trying to explain away the text message arias sent alexander suggesting she dress up like a dirty little schoolgirl. >> the idea of the schoolgirl in the outfit, was that something that you were interested in? or was it something you were doing to please him? >> it would be more for his pleasure because just being with him was enough for me. he enj
to actually kill mr. alexander. >> yes. >> and you didn't administer another pt test. >> and brian is live from phoenix with the latest. tell me this witness, many people thought did a reasonably good job under direct examination and the defense lawyer. what happened when the prosecution got his hands on him? >> well, you said it there, greta. it really wasn't so much what he testified about, but what he didn't testify about and when it came to cross examination that became clear. you had that correct sound bite there with basically him admitting the test he conducted to initially diagnose her with ptsd and he knew she answered some of the questions wrong and acknowledged maybe i should have readministered the test. and that doesn't bode well for the dense defense and what the prosecutor hit them with being inaccurate. >> greta: some things sort of goes by and nobody pays much attention. but when it was established that the expert had reached his opinion based on a mountain of lies. was it that sort of like a stink bomb had been set off in the courtroom and there was a hush? what was it li
. >> they advised her to move on from the relationship that mr. alexander has been abusive to women. there was information about mr. alexander calling miss arias a skank and then acting like it was a joke. >> jean, again, if we're talking about the level of abuse that would lead to the kind of rage that beth just described, being called a scank in an e-mail or being treated by somebody who thinks that's appropriate language. i'm looking for abuse here. help me. help me help jodi. how much abuse, true abuse, are we hearing from -- so far from this expert? >> well, i agrees if has to do with how it is assimilated into the person of jodjodi. and there was definitely that i am calling toward jodi from travis in e-mails and calling her very, very bad things. the letter, though, that this witness got to summarize yesterday, it was critically important for the defense because chris and sky hughes are a couple that were like family to travis alexander. they had known him for five years. he's the one that they turned to, he turned to them and she got to summarize a letter that they had writt
to mr. alexander's home on june 4th with the intent on killing him? >> no, i didn't. >> reporter: another attempt to convince the jury she murdered travis alexander in self-defense. even though she's changed her story three times. testimony quickly turned to arias' broken finger on her left hand. the prosecution tried to prove she hurt her finger while stabbing her ex-boyfriend dozens of times and drags his blody body around the house. to dispute that, arias' defense lawyer offered a show and tell. >> and that is the injury you incurred when you testified to having received whether mr. alexander was kicking you in the ribs and he ended up kicking your hand, correct? >> that's correct. >> reporter: arias says alexander broke her finger six months before the murder. the day after she caught him algdzly masturbating to a photo of a little boy. she claims he became increasingly violent after that. even though the couple had broken up, she and alexander continued to have sex. she wasn't the only one alexander was seeing. the stant painted her as jealous and obsessive. but here in cour
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him as a cruel man. >> in terms of your relationship with mr. alexander there were times when you were up on a pedestal. is that right? >> yes. >> and other times you were on the ground being kicked. >> yes. reporter: she add she still loved him unconditionally. but then she said because he was cruel she didn't want to continue withsomeone like that or have children. >> shepard: at one point they had her walking around the displume what was that about? reporter: more courtroom choreography. posing for a photo showing her finger reportedly injured. i'm not sure what it achieved. the defense certainly has a lot of damage him addition to do here because the prosecution tore her up last week. this is day 26 only the trial and looks like arias will be staying on the stopped for now. >> dominic, thank you. >>> well, let's take this to the judge. after what happen last week, he just kept winning point after point after point. final hill she starts crying, admitting she did all these things. but today is different. >> today is different. as to last week sometimes that hyper aggressive grilling
so deep his head was nearly cut off. >> do you have any memory of slashing mr. alexander's throat? >> no. >> when you were asked on cross-examination if you did that, do you recall telling us that you did? >> yes. >> was that a recollection or a logical assumption on your part? >> it was definitely not a recollection. >> reporter: what might have been arias' motive? was she perhaps driven to kill after finding out alexander had been seeing another woman? >> i certainly wasn't thrilled, no, i was devastated when i discovered that he wasn't being faithful to me. >> reporter: the defense was quick to point out arias knew alexander was cheating for some time and still kept having sex with him. an attempt to show arias didn't just snap on the day of the killing. >> this is something you had a longstanding knowledge of before june 4th of 2008, isn't that correct? >> yes. >> reporter: for the first time arias told the jury she wishes she could turn back the clock and make some different decisions regarding alexander. she said she thought he needed help especially after she says she found
deep, his head was nearly cut off. >> do you have any memories of slashing mr. alexander's throat? >> no. >> you -- when you were asked on cross-examination if you did that, do you recall telling us that you did? >> yes. >> was that a recollection or a logical assumption on your part? >> it was definitely not a recollection. >> reporter: what might have been arias' motive, what's she driven to kill after finding out alexander was seeing another woman. >> i wasn't thrilled i was december vas tated when he wasn't being faithful to me. >> reporter: the defense was quick to point out arias knew alexander was cheating for some time and kept having sex with him, an attempt to show arias didn't just snap on the day of the killing. >> this is something you had a longstanding knowledge of before june 4th of 2008, isn't that correct? >> yes. >> reporter: for first time arias told the jury she wishes she could turn back the clock. some different decisions regarding alexander. she said she thought he needed help, he is specis especially ad him mass ter baiting to a picture of a young boy. >>
it this way, i felt a little bit used, but i knew i'd gone there willingly on my own. >> so mr. alexander was sleeping in the bed next to you, right. >> yes. >> and your bags were in the home, right. >> in the bedroom. >> in the bedroom. did you get up and grab a gun and shoot him? >> no. >> did you grab a knife and be stab him in the bed? >> no, travis flipped out again and he stood up and he stepped out of the shower and he picked me up crouching, but he lifted me up as he was screaming stupid idiot and he body slammed me again on the tile, freaking out, i'm freaking out like i said rolled off to my left and began running down the hallway and i could hear his footsteps chasing me. >> were you scared when he was chasing you. >> yeah, i didn't want him to grab me again. >> what were you scared that he would do? >> who knows at that point. he had already almost killed me so i ran into the closet and i slammed the door and i intended to run through the opposite end of the door 'cause it had another exit and as soon as i got in there i began to runny remembered where he kept the gun. i grabb
, you grab a gun, you back up, you shoot mr. alexander, you pick up the camera, because you said his only possibility, and he's already down the hallway with his throat slit. right? that's what you're telling us happy? >> hln mike galanos put arias' time line to the test in this re-enactment. >> all right. jodi's taking pictures of flavs the shower, stumbles, drops the camera, you stupid idiot. a 5-year-old could handle that better. never seen him this angry. knocked down, gets herself together enough to run out of there. where do i go, do i sflooef the closet. i'm in the closet now, i've created some space. i remember the gun. she gets the gun, heading back to the bathroom, hopefully point it at him, get him to back off. the confrontation. travis comes at her like a linebacker, she says. boom, the gun goes off. he's shot in the head but they're down now. she somehow gets off, gets up, but it's time to get out of here. in the midst of all that, she's got to find a knife and it's time. one, two, three, four, five, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24,
and you told us before that mr. alexander told you it wasn't loaded, right? >> he told me both, yes. >> you told that to the jury, right? >> yes. >> and mr. alex ander said it's not loaded, right? >> he said it's not loaded, but one day he said it is loaded. >> he told you it was unloaded. >> initially it assured me it was not loaded. >> and you also take your belief that you think it's unloaded based on what he told you and you run into this closet to get that. what were you going to do with the gun, throw it at him? >> objection. mischaracterizes testimony. argumentative. >> sustained. >> what were you going to do if it's unloaded? >> i testified that i pointed it at him. >> that he body slammed her, that she shot the gun, pulled the trigger. >> you would agree that it requires you to put your finger on the trigger and pull it for to fire, right? >> that's my understanding, yes. >> well, you were there, right? >> kre. >> so you fired the gun, you shot him in the head and you killed him, right? >> objection, your honor. mischaracterizes. >> overruled. >> right? >> yeah. >> but even
at points. today, calmer. >> did you go to mr. alexander's home on june 4th with the intent on killing him? >> no, i didn't. >> did at any point in time during that day, june 4th, 2008, did you make a conscience decision that i want to kill travis alexander? >> no, that was never a thought. >> shepard: in fact, not only does she say she didn't plan to kill him, she says she doesn't remember killing him. and today she told the court how much she once loved this man before she stabbed and shot and slashed the life out of him. dominic di-natale is tracking latest from our west coast news hub. she said on the stand today she still loves the man she killed. >> that's right, shep. unconditionally so, she says. extraordinary, really because "studio b" the defense is trying to portray her ex, travis alexander and violent and mean. this afternoon areas attorney trying to draw out alexander's mistreatment of her in the face of her obsession with him and how she would do anything to get his attention. most especially, shep, through their sex life it? >> made me feel good to know that he was enjoying
monism. she converted for mr. alexander. also her memory loss. also bruises she claimed she was abused by alexander. yet she never took any photos or has any evidence of the bruises on her body, yet she took photos of pretty much everything else in her life. today there was a really interesting question from one of the jurors. he asked why she would -- why should they believe her when she's lied so many times in the past. she says she was ashamed initially and she wanted to protect travis alexander's reputation. >> what a relief to have a question about something other than her sexual activities. do you have any idea of when we should expect the jury to begin deliberations on a verdict? >> reporter: there's a long way to go. there's still a lot of testimony left. the defense has to call all of their expert witnesses. she's been on the stand for 17 days. the defense hasn't rested. the prosecution still has their closing argument. the betting on the street here is that it could go well through april. >> nbc's katy tur. thank you very much. stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming u
that mr. alexander was killed and then she was there and then it was masked intruders that killed them and now settled on self defense. >> after all the lies you have told, why should we believe you now? >> lying isn't typically something i just do. i'm not going to say that i have never told a lie in my life before this incident, but the lies that i've told in this case are -- can be tied directly back to protecting travis's reputation or my involvement in his death in any way. because i was very ashamed. >> reporter: now, she doesn't deany killing travis alexander. she shot him in the face, stabbed him repeatedly and slit his throat ear to ear. she said out of self defense. the prosecution said that she was jealous that the ex was dating other women. if convicted she could face the death penalty. tamron? >> how much longer do they anticipate this trial will go on? >> reporter: we have heard that it could go on well in to april. it could go on that much longer and stale lot to go and has been on the stand, the defense has not yet rested. >> incredible. thank you very much. and that do
that you told us about mr. alexander, telling that the gun was unloaded you believed it was unloaded and you were getting that gun. what were you going to do with it if it was unloaded. >> i was just thinking of pointing it at him because i know personally if a gun was pointed at me my first instinct was going to be to stop and that's what i wanted him to do. >> but if he had already told you that it was unloaded, why would you believe that he was going to stop if he had just told you-- if he had previously told you it was unloaded? >> it was just a hope because that's my philosophy about if i had to look at the end of a barrel of a gun i would stop and i didn't have time to sit and rationalize whether or not he would care whether it was unloaded or loaded or what, i didn't know. i just wanted him to stop. >> then he came after you into the bathroom and then you pointed it, in your opinion-- and your testimony is that you were just pointing the gun at him when he came at you, right? >> yes. >> you would agree that it requires you to put your finger on the trigger and pull it for it t
amnesia. >> do you have any memories of slashing mr. alexander's throat? >> no. >> reporter: at least that's what her defense team would like the jury to believe. >> why did you put the camera in the washer? >> i don't have memory of that. i don't know why i would do that. >> reporter: and defense lawyers are hoping this psychologist, a defense witness, will convince jurors arias isn't faking this. >> it appears as if she suffers from dissociative amnesia. >> reporter: the doctor says that is something that happens after severe trauma such as a killing. the acute stress that follows sends a surge of chemicals to the brain that block the brain from storing any memories. >> the more intense the crime or intense the distress, the more complete the amnesia tends to be. >> when you say more complete, what do you mean? >> the loss is greater. the loss is more permanent. most of what occurred is not remembered as opposed to perhaps some of it being remembered. >> reporter: jodi arias has testified here in court over and over she doesn't remember anything after shooting travis alexander back in ju
still felt threatened after having shot mr. alexander, why did you use a knife instead of just shooting again? >> well, i know that i dropped the gun when he hit me and i don't know where the gun went. when we fell, it was no longer in my hand. and i don't really remember picking up the knife. i just remember feeling threatened. and he was the immediate threat. >> bill: this murder case has now captured the attention of millions of americans, joining us from phoenix to handicap the case monica lind strawm criminal defense attorney who has been in the courtroom. why do you think this case has now broken out and so many people are at ing attention to it? >> well, first of all, it's a death penalty case. and in arizona, if she is convicted, she would be only the fourth woman on death row here in arizona. but i think it has gained so much attention because it has all the craziness of a horror movie. we have got young people who had a sexual relationship. we have religion involved. and we have got just a pretty defendant with just a heinous, brutal killing. so all those put together, that's
have any memories of slashing mr. alexander's throat? >> no. >> prosecutor martinez went to great lengths trying to discredit samuels, peppering him about inconsistencies in his report on arias and openly questioning the quality of his work. >> how much are you getting paid per hour? >> i get paid per hour $250. >> and for $250 an hour you're saying that this is -- you weren't paying enough attention to put whatever else was needed -- >> i reviewed the report numerous times. and i must admit i missed it. >> ted rowlands joining us live now from outside the courthouse. so, ted, can we expect the same kind of fireworks today and more questioning? >> absolutely, fredricka. he'll be back in the witness chair. this time he'll be taking questions from the jury. and prosecutor juan martinez gets to follow-up on those questions. so i would assume it's going to be another long day for dr. samuels. >> ted rowlands, thanks so much. keep us posted. >>> all right. if you drink a whole lot of soda every day, stick around for this next story. a harvard study found tens of thousands die every yea
that maybe before he met you, that mr. alexander was a virgin. do you remember being asked about that? >> yes. >> objection -- never asked that. >> approach, please. >> okay. so sunny hostin, what is happening right now, awe he as objection, what is going on? >> objections are tactical moves made by either side to prevent certain information from coming in. but i would echo what holly said earlier, which is really this is the defense's opportunity to paint the picture of why she would commit this heinous crime, because we all know she did it, she admitted to doing it, but what the jury is really going to have a problem with is why would she do it in this manner? we're talking about someone who was stabbed 27 times, shot, nearly decapitated. you really have to paint a picture of an abused woman sort of like, remember farrah fawcett in "burning bed," going back in the day, but remember that type of terrible abuse that would lead someone to murder someone she admittedly loved. and i'm not so sure that they're going to be able to get that far, but this defense in this case, is about saving jodi
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